On 20 aug 2014, at 23:58, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote: > shall we try to meet in honolulu before the ietf meeting, saturday nov 8 > or sunday nov 9? i think we have shown that we only need a day. but we > will have made significant progress and will probably want to do some > detailed planning. I can do that, staying the whole week (and more). jakob